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Post by Darkstar on Aug 9, 2011 22:14:47 GMT 2
You seem to have missed my point bud. I mean that he goes to the top in order to attack, then the face side makes him get down in order to help and/or leave.
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Post by bman316 on Aug 10, 2011 11:11:22 GMT 2
You seem to have missed my point bud. I mean that he goes to the top in order to attack, then the face side makes him get down in order to help and/or leave. Or you've missed mine. The only reason he would be going to the top rope his to do a face move, so I don't get what you are trying to get at here. If I am misunderstanding you can you try to speak slower and more clearly please
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Post by Darkstar on Aug 10, 2011 12:23:00 GMT 2
So no heels do top rope moves then Baz?
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Post by bman316 on Aug 10, 2011 12:40:07 GMT 2
So no heels do top rope moves then Baz? Please tell me where I say that? I said I don't have him doing flashy moves as a heel. I have the flashy moves in the face move set and non falshy in the heel move base as I think when you look at a lot of wrestlers they tend to slow their style up when working as a heel do they not?
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Post by Darkstar on Aug 10, 2011 15:46:16 GMT 2
Baz, stop being a Sun reader. I quite clearly agreed with you 1 page back about the move style. I was making a different point entirely, so yeah you are the one missing the point Im making, not the other way around.
And not all top rope moves are flashy. And even so many heels use them.
Heel Hardyz Heel Morrison Heel RVD
Thats off the top of my head.
And either way, it was just an idea. No need for you to make such a big song and dance about it fella.
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Post by bman316 on Aug 10, 2011 16:15:53 GMT 2
Baz, stop being a Sun reader. I quite clearly agreed with you 1 page back about the move style. I was making a different point entirely, so yeah you are the one missing the point Im making, not the other way around. And not all top rope moves are flashy. And even so many heels use them. Heel Hardyz Heel Morrison Heel RVD Thats off the top of my head. And either way, it was just an idea. No need for you to make such a big song and dance about it fella. A sun reader WTF does that even mean? I never said they don't Im clearly asking you what are you trying to say, because I don't know what you are trying to say. There is no song and dance at all quite simply I don't know what your point is so who can I make a song and dance about something I don't get what you are trying to say? So again I do ask can you be clearer as I have asked as the way I do have the character I have got the more flashy move in his face side and the none flashy moves as a heel side. Now on the other hand if you can help me out with the move set for a couple of top rope moves than can be added that aren't flashy then I think I get what you are aiming for and it sounds good. Im utterly sick of people starting arguements out of nothing. No point in me saying yeah that sounds good if I don't know what you are on about is there?
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Post by Darkstar on Aug 10, 2011 16:42:41 GMT 2
The sun reader bit was a joke mate. I first put 'stop being dense' but I realised that would have looked serious, so I put sun reader as a jokey insult.
Ok, now lets look at top rope moves.
Flashy would be, to me, anything with flips and rotations. Non flashy would be simple things like elbows and knees. Heck Doug Williams used to use a top rope knee drop as a heel IIRC. Heck maybe even the top rope curb stomp is brutal without being flashy.
I agree that top rope moves are generally flashy, but in the last 10-15 years people have become so used to flippy stuff that the basic ones just dont have that WOW factor anymore really. Imagin the heel side wanting to hit a double foot stomp form the top rope, nasty, nasty move, he gets up top but then the face side takes over and makes him get down because of how brutal the move is.
In fact that would be a great way to get the move over without even hitting it.
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Post by bman316 on Aug 10, 2011 16:51:20 GMT 2
The sun reader bit was a joke mate. I first put 'stop being dense' but I realised that would have looked serious, so I put sun reader as a jokey insult. Ok, now lets look at top rope moves. Flashy would be, to me, anything with flips and rotations. Non flashy would be simple things like elbows and knees. Heck Doug Williams used to use a top rope knee drop as a heel IIRC. Heck maybe even the top rope curb stomp is brutal without being flashy. I agree that top rope moves are generally flashy, but in the last 10-15 years people have become so used to flippy stuff that the basic ones just dont have that WOW factor anymore really. Imagin the heel side wanting to hit a double foot stomp form the top rope, nasty, nasty move, he gets up top but then the face side takes over and makes him get down because of how brutal the move is. In fact that would be a great way to get the move over without even hitting it. Can you put the first one up then, Sun Reader is much more offensive Anyway, in that case do you think I would be better switching those moves around at all or just leave it the way it is? Sorry I just want to try and be clear on everything because as you said im sure this will be difficult enough to write for so just want it as clear as possible. Im sure it will end up becoming more and more of a comedy character the more that happens etc and as I said before I am happy to rarely win a match if at all. I dunno if I can get a move over without hitting it can I? - How do you think that would work as realisitcally who would know what's going on? or you thinking he could talk about the move with himself on the top rope or something?
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Post by Darkstar on Aug 10, 2011 17:11:37 GMT 2
It was only an idea, nothing you ever have to do. But the heel side could big up the move in promos, then whenever he goes to the top the announcers big it up. Then nothing. I bet you could build it up to the size of the Gore nearly without ever hitting it.
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Post by bman316 on Aug 10, 2011 17:23:28 GMT 2
A good idea at that now I know what you're getting at. Anything that helps the character develop and fun to write for. The more ideas I have the more likely I am to post as well so all good.
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Post by bman316 on Aug 15, 2011 14:24:23 GMT 2
Sorry folks didn't get the chance to do this over the weekend, aim to write this tomorrow and get it posted though.
Apologies for the delay
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Post by bman316 on Aug 16, 2011 18:48:30 GMT 2
Won't get doing this tonight, somethings came up. Soon though:)
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Post by bman316 on Sept 1, 2011 12:05:33 GMT 2
Folks, huge apologies on the delay on this, had a lot on this month. Can I just confirm you still want me to do this v Gringo giving the recent change in his character?
Ta
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Post by Darkstar on Sept 1, 2011 14:21:18 GMT 2
May as well.
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Post by bman316 on Sept 2, 2011 10:32:01 GMT 2
With Gringo a heel or a face?
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